2005 C5 Front Calliper continual failure

This is the Forum for all your Citroen Technical Questions, Problems or Advice.

Moderator: RichardW

User avatar
Gregg1100
Posts: 603
Joined: 01 Jul 2001, 23:37
Location: Cwmbran S. Wales
My Cars:

2005 C5 Front Calliper continual failure

Post by Gregg1100 » 16 May 2018, 00:47

Hi,
My son's 2005 C5 -136 bhp model, seems to go through handbrake cables and callipers quicker than ice cream melting on a hot day.
He had both handbrake cables and tubes, plus front callipers and front discs replaced last year- about June.
Now the cable has seized again, and the calliper on N/S/F. That's two sets each side.
In the 30+ cars fitted with front disk brakes I have had, I have never had to change a calliper.. So any idea as to why this car is eating the brakes would be helpful. I have not seen anything about calliper troubles in this forum to do with this model.
Thank you
Greg
PS Not been here for a while. I was looking at a C5 until I realised it had a DMF flywheel. Soon walked away from that.
0x

90 Kawa EN 500 A1- was running---now dead again
04 Kawa GPZ 500 E10 -alive and well.
54 Fiat Punto 1.2 Dynamic

Old Xantias- 16v 2litre 1997 VSX, 2 x 1993 TD Lx, S2 SX 1.9TD
Old Bx's--3 x 1.9 D, 1x 1.6 Auto, 1 x 1.9 GTi, 1 x 1.9 TZS

Peter.N.
Moderating Team
Posts: 8768
Joined: 02 Apr 2005, 16:11
Location: Charmouth,Dorset
My Cars: Currently:
Peugeot 406 LX Hdi estate, 01, blue
Peugeot 406 GLX Hdi estate, 01, blue

In the past: 3, CX td Safaris and about 7, XM td estates. Lovely cars.
x 104

Re: 2005 C5 Front Calliper continual failure

Post by Peter.N. » 16 May 2018, 09:54

He doesn't drive it through salt water anywhere does he? Sounds like rapid corrosion. I had a cable seize on mine because the plastic was cracked and let water in, I gave it a good dousing of oil through the cracked part and never had any more trouble.

Peter
0x

User avatar
GiveMeABreak
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 8493
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
Location: West Wales
My Cars: '09 C5 X7 2.0 HDi Exclusive Mativoire Beige (The Golden Hornet)
'07 C3 1.6 HDi Exclusive Aluminium Grey (The Silver Hornet)
Past:
'76 GS 1000 Cedreat Yellow (yuk)
'79 GS 1220 Geranium Red
'78 CX 2.4 Turbo Prestige C-Matic Nevada Beige
'84 CX 20 Polar White
'90 XM 2.0 SX Polar White
'93 XM 2.0 Turbo Prestige Polar White
'94 XM 2.0 Turbo Prestige Emerald Green Pearlescent
'98 C15 Romahome White
'99 Xantia 2.0 HDi SX Hermes Red
'01 C5 2.0 HDi SX Wicked Red
'05 C5 2.0 HDi Exclusive Obsidian Black
x 622

Re: 2005 C5 Front Calliper continual failure

Post by GiveMeABreak » 16 May 2018, 10:27

Gregg1100 wrote:
16 May 2018, 00:47
I was looking at a C5 until I realised it had a DMF flywheel. Soon walked away from that.

You’ll find most diesels with similar powered engines from other manufacturers also have DMFs to dampen the vibration and protect the components. Nothing unique to the C5.
0x
Marc

User avatar
MikeT
Posts: 4266
Joined: 11 Jun 2007, 16:17
Location: Christchurch, Dorset. UK
My Cars: 2005 C5restyle 1.6HDI 16v 110hp VTR Estate
x 119

Re: 2005 C5 Front Calliper continual failure

Post by MikeT » 16 May 2018, 11:03

Mine's the same. At 69000miles, it had already had at least one caliper replaced and on inspection they both need refurbishing due to torn dust seals.
The handbrake tubes seem too rigid/inflexible and split where they exit from under the car at the wheel arch.
0x
98 S2 Xantia Hatch 1.9TD 143K
CX 2400 GTi

jgra1
Posts: 4466
Joined: 27 Nov 2005, 20:07
Location: Kent / Susssex
My Cars: 2010 C5 X7 2.0 hdi 160 exc auto
MG TF 135
Honda VFR800 Fix
Honda Goldwing 1500/6 old and gold
x 15

Re: 2005 C5 Front Calliper continual failure

Post by jgra1 » 16 May 2018, 18:24

That is nuts Gregg :)

Cable and guides should last a few years.. caliper longer .. no idea those are failing at that rate !

I remember doing mine and jamming some hd grease into the tubes .. that doesn't explain the Cally though
0x

User avatar
Gregg1100
Posts: 603
Joined: 01 Jul 2001, 23:37
Location: Cwmbran S. Wales
My Cars:

Re: 2005 C5 Front Calliper continual failure

Post by Gregg1100 » 17 May 2018, 01:34

It seems the parts are from a motor factor, so perhaps that is the trouble. I tried to use GSF stuff when I had my Citroens.
I have a new BX handbrake cable in my shed. Looking at it, it seems identical to Xantia one. Not having seen a C5 cable, I wondered if there was any interchangeability between the cables. That way, there would be no dozy tubes to seize up cable and worry about. All the Bx's, Xantias that myself and my son has had over the years, never did we have any handbrake or calliper woes. On this C5, I even put Kawasaki GT 750 mainstand springs on the ends of the cable on calliper to help return the handbrake lever on calliper to fully off position..
I will go into the Citroen parts site tomorrow- if still available- to see if any cables are interchangeable in any way.
Thanks for responses so far
Greg
PS. Regarding DMF stuff, I would walk away because of the diabolical cost. Diesel cars have done hundreds of thousand miles without all this dmf crud.
Not needed on the Xantia, Xm or Bx- only the stupid plastic cable clip was a weak point- modifiable to a metal jobbie.
0x

90 Kawa EN 500 A1- was running---now dead again
04 Kawa GPZ 500 E10 -alive and well.
54 Fiat Punto 1.2 Dynamic

Old Xantias- 16v 2litre 1997 VSX, 2 x 1993 TD Lx, S2 SX 1.9TD
Old Bx's--3 x 1.9 D, 1x 1.6 Auto, 1 x 1.9 GTi, 1 x 1.9 TZS